Barack Obama, Savior or Beast

Posted: 09/10/2008 by that's Elbert in Barack Obama, Christianity, democrats, opinions, Politics

What in the world is this???

“If you want change, you want the Democratic Party,” said Democrat Congressman Steve Cohen. “Barack Obama was a community organizer like Jesus, who our minister just prayed about. Pontius Pilate was a governor.”

You have to wonder if Rep. Cohen thinks that Obama is a modern day messiah. On the other side of things, I received an email today that compared Obama to The Beast:

How long is the beast allowed to have authority in Revelation? Revelation Chapter 13 tells us it is 42 months, and you know what that is, almost a four-year term of a Presidency. All I can say is ‘Lord, Have mercy on us!’

According to The Book of Revelation the anti-Christ is a man, in his 40’s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal….the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, will destroy everything..

Do we recognize this description??

So, to some, he is messianic. To others, he is The Beast. He certainly isn’t bringing these parties together.

  1. josephudo says:

    I think the age and the Muslim thing is exaggerated even though it may come true. He may be a prelude to the AntiChrist if he is not the beast.

  2. laurel says:

    Oh, Elbert.

    Every time I see something like this, the first thing I do is go to to check validity.

    This is what it says: “Nothing in the Bible – in Revelations or elsewhere – describes the anti-Christ as being “a man, in his 40’s, of Muslim descent”…the Nation of Islam was founded about 400 years after the book of Revelation was completed”

    With all due respect, it’s the posting of this kind of inaccurate nonsense that makes it hard for me to respect right wing arguments.

  3. laurel, I was pointing out the extremes in the supporters/opposers of Barack Obama. Referring to the later argument, more than likely someone interpreted “muslim” from a text in Revelation, thus this idea gets spread. I was well aware that Obama stated in an interview with David Brody from CBN News that he was a Christian, and I will take him at his word. I doubt that some will accept that, but that is their choice. At the same time, Rep. Cohen’s comments were silly and were directly partisan. And if they want to believe that Obama is the second coming, it is their choice. Thus the two extremes.

  4. Ian says:

    I encourage everyone to call Cohen’s office and register your disgust at his statement. I did yesterday and the person answering the phone acted like it’s the first timne she had heard his statement.

    Nashville – 901-544-4131
    Washington DC 202-225-3265

  5. laurel says:

    well, for goodness sake. Jesus was a community organizer, yes? Pontius Pilot was a governor, true?

    I didn’t get the implication that Barack is the second coming.

    I think it’s more to refute Palin’s implication that her experience as Governor is more creditable than Obama’s as a community organizer.

    Ian – thanks for the information. I called Cohen’s office and expressed my support for his right to make that statement.

  6. I’d say that saying Jesus was merely a community organizer is a great understatement if not an insult to His purpose and mission. But I think the real issue is the comparison of Obama to Jesus and Palin to Pontius Pilot. The big dig there was that Pilot gave the authority to crucify Jesus, thus making Palin a villain. Ah, but that’s probably politics, right?

    And I do think that a governor trumps a “community organizer” every time. If the Obama campaign wants to run with something, it shouldn’t be that.

    I thought your call of support for Cohen was funny, the exact opposite of Ian’s intention. I will still call to register my disgust, and at least to counteract your call. 🙂

  7. Kelly says:

    Well, I don’t think he’s the Beast and I know he’s not the Messiah, but I still don’t like him and am NOT voting for him 🙂
    Elbert, my dh has started a blog you might find interesting.

  8. My issues with Obama are on policy, which can be easily nailed down. You really can’t do that on everything else.

  9. Wayne says:

    You missed the boat on this one. There is a valid and well-known context for what Rep. Cohen was talking about. Sarah Palin ridiculed community organizers at the Rep. convention. This is a direct rebuttal of that ridicule. There is no “moral equivalency” between that and the “prophetic” smear.

  10. Apocalypse says:

    Just a point of biblical clarification. There is no “The” antichrist mentioned anywhere in scripture. (There is a “man of perdition,” “lawless one,” “man of sin,” “prince of the people to come,” “one who makes desolate” etc.), but no “The antichrist.” There are antichrists mentioned in 1st John as any who deny Jesus as Christ.
    I think most are actually referring to “The [first] Beast” [who comes out of the sea, not the second beast from the earth] of Revelation 13 who/which is also an antichrist like most of the world are antichrists at that (this?) time. The beast could just as easily refer to political/religious structures as to an individual person considering the way beasts are most often (if not always) used symbolically elsewhere in scripture (see the beasts of Daniel, descriptions of nations in Ezekiel, etc.). Only God truly knows.
    In either case, we all know to never receive the mark of the beast even if it means death (whatever the mark really is–we still can’t know for sure until God reveals it). May God grant wisdom that we can calculate the number (666) of the beast to accurately warn others.

  11. tanktop says:

    snopes site mst be run by an idiot who doesnt understand the first thing about biblical prophecies….he lists a couple of scriptures and tries to build an arguement Obama is not the anti-christ (although I personally do not believe Obama is) their are MANY scriptures regarding the man of sin,or beast ( a better title) not just the few this Snopes the bible ignorant fool lists!

  12. tanktop, refering to Snopes as a “bible ignorant fool” and “idiot” does nothing to give you credibility. Rather than attack the Snopes author personally, why not just disagree and state your reasons why? That would be a bit more constructive.